D2 auf Abwegen? Pay to Win bald Standard?

[RPG Dude]

Da komme ich gerade gemütlich aus dem Urlaub und was lese ich da im US-Forum?!

Wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, kommt D2R jetzt bald in China (dachte, die spielen einfach auf dem Asia-Server - aber gut) und es kommt nicht alleine.
Gegen einen Obolus gibts da direkt ne Starthilfe in Form von Runen, 30%XP und Goldboost, ein Extra Stash Tab und 2 Steine von Jordan, dazu scheinbar noch weitere "China" Exklusivitems.

Also wenn das wirklich stimmt und kein Out-of-season-April Fools Joke ist, bin ich einfach nur noch unglaublich angepiss.t

Schlimm genug, wie profitorientiert und jedwede Gamingmoral über Bord werfend heutzutage entwickelt wird - aber lasst uns doch dann bitte die Klassiker unangetastet genießen.

Wie schlecht ist Blizzard eigentlich mittlerweile, nach jedem tiefsten Tief kommt ein noch tieferes Supertief.

Unfassbar!

Falls jemand mehr Infos hat, was da los ist - bitte melden.

 

[Klenkogi]

Alles richtig gelesen. China kriegt kaufbare Stashtabs, max. 3 an der Zahl und Vorbesteller kriegen je nach "Paket" unterschideliche Starterboni. Das sind Gold&Exp Boni für 90 Tage. Diverse Runen, uniques, Regenbogenfacetten, etc.
Dazu bekommen sie ein neues exklusives Set bestehend aus Helm, Gürtel, Brust, Handschuhe und Stiefel. Wenn man es vollständig hat erlangt der Träger eine Level 10 Meditationsaura.

 

[FenixBlack]

Zwar bin ich in meinem kleinen mit rosaroter Watte ausgepolstertem Singleplayerreich davon überhaupt nicht berührt, aber es ist fassbar wie nuttig das ist.

Es bestätigt mich in der Ahnung, dass wir Blizzard nun wirklich den Rücken zukehren können und nie wieder irgendwas von ihnen erwarten brauchen.

 

[DameVenusia]

China ist halt ein komplett anderer Markt. Wie die Regeln da genau sind weiss ich natürlich auch nicht, aber was ich weiß ist, dass viele Chinesen sowohl status- als auch wettbewerbsorientiert sind. Mit Cosmetics verdienst du mit einem Diablo- like ARPG daher dort genau nix. Das wird bereits erwartet.

Edit: Versteht mich nicht falsch. Aber meiner Kenntnis nach muss dort für mehr Geld auch was substanzielles geboten werden, das sind dann halt bestimmte Vorteile ausserhalb von Cosmetics. Ob das zu uns kommt?
Vielleicht. Ich weiß natürlich auch das nicht...

 

[marcx88]

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Vielleicht spricht ja jemand zufällig Chinesisch/Mandarin und kann da etwas Licht ins Dunkel bringen.

 

[Looser]

Vielleicht ne doofe Frage meinerseits: ist irgendwann demnächst/Ende August ein Ladderreset anstehend?


Ich hab Mal mein chinesisches Handy befragt wie es die Homepage zusammenfassen würde. Scheint ganz passabel chinesisch sprechen zu können. Und weil es nicht so ins Detail gehen wollte hier nochmal der Itemteil:


Gerne, hier sind die einzigartigen Gegenstände und Runen, die in den Deluxe- und Ultimate-Paketen angeboten werden:

Deluxe-Paket:

Einzigartige Gegenstände: Glücksbringer x1, Goldträger x1, Khazras Reise x1, Rabenfrost x1, Stein von Jordan x2, Alyssas Auge x1, Blitzregenbogenfacette x2
Runen: Ort x2, Tir x2, Amn x2, Sol x1, Shael x1, Lum x1, Ko x1

Ultimatives Paket:

Einzigartige Gegenstände: Glücksbringer x1, Goldträger x1, Khazras Reise x1, Rabenfrost x1, Stein von Jordan x2, Alyssas Auge x1, Blitzregenbogenfacette x2, Feuerregenbogenfacette x1, Eisregenbogenfacette x1, Giftregenbogenfacette x1, Zeichen der Absolution x1
Runen: Ort x2, Tir x2, Amn x2, Sol x1, Shael x1, Lum x1, Ko x1

Gibt es noch etwas, das Sie wissen möchten?

 

[Klenkogi]

Hab hier mehr Informationen von einem Q&A, welches letzte Woche in China abgehalten wurde:

1. Q: The first question is about the rampant use of cheats and scripts in the Asia server. Since its inception, Diablo II has always had issues with cheats and scripts, including in the current international servers. The goal of these scripts is to create an account, make a profit before it gets banned, and then create another one. I’d like to ask Brother Kai, you previously mentioned that the maintenance of the game environment for the Chinese server will primarily be handled by NetEase. What specific measures will be taken to address this situation?
   
   Spoiler: Q1

   [*]Kai: NetEase has decades of experience battling studios, and you can feel that commitment vividly. Since this is the first time Diablo II is launching [in the Chinese server], our primary goal is clear: we won’t let the negative experiences from the Asia server or other foreign servers carry over. That’s our objective. To achieve this, we’ll take highly efficient actions and make some experimental attempts. We hope these initial efforts will gain strong recognition from the community. If you feel something isn’t right, you can provide feedback to us. But if you look at the example of World of Warcraft, when the Chinese server wasn’t available, many players went to the Asia server, and it became extremely chaotic. Foreign players aren’t used to dealing with this, but Chinese game companies have years of experience and capability in combating studios. We believe we can implement better mechanisms. As for the specific mechanisms we’re using now, we’ll need to wait until the game launches to see the response from new and veteran players. It’s not just about operational measures either—if you’ve noticed, after the relaunch of games like World of Warcraft or Overwatch, we’ve used many legal measures against cheats. Many offenders have even been arrested and prosecuted. For any NetEase game, if you dare to create cheats that disrupt the entire game, we’ll use stronger measures to impact the entire cheating industry chain. Let’s work together on this. In the future, we hope for more feedback from everyone to create an environment where players feel they want to play. Thank you!
   [*]
2. Q: The second question is for Kai. Will there be an official trading platform for Diablo II: Resurrected in the Chinese server? If not, how will you balance free trading with studio scripts? Is there a specific detection mechanism or penalty policy?
   
   Spoiler: Q2

   Kai: We've discussed this before, and I can say clearly that, at least for now, there won’t be an official trading platform. However, the core of Diablo II lies in the players, the rarity of items, and the joy of earning rewards through effort. As for how we balance this, the key is to strictly regulate malicious studios or abnormal bot activities, such as item farming, to ensure a good experience for regular players. This is a balancing process, and we hope to do it well to avoid dampening the enthusiasm of players who love this game. We will definitely crack down on these studios, but normal trading is supported—it’s been part of the game’s ecosystem for decades, and many players find joy in it. As for whether there’s a specific detection mechanism, the answer is yes. We will have dedicated detection mechanisms and penalty policies tailored for Diablo II. It’s a process of refinement, and we hope to keep improving. We’ve also accumulated experience from overseas, and based on that, we’re well-prepared.
3. Q: My second question is about anti-cheating measures. Will the Chinese server share anti-cheat technology with the international server, or will a customized solution be developed specifically for the Chinese market?
   
   Spoiler: Q3

   Kai: In fact, all Blizzard games relaunched this time are using NetEase’s latest anti-cheat technology, which is different from the global approach. We know that globally, anti-cheating measures aren’t as stringent, but in China, the issue is very serious. Diablo II is particularly unique—unlike Diablo III, the item rarity in Diablo II is much more significant. Therefore, we will be extremely strict in combating cheating and botting to ensure an excellent environment for Diablo II. We are absolutely committed to doing our best. The new anti-cheat SDK comes from NetEase, and the entire anti-cheat system is managed by the NetEase team. They handle the SDK monitoring, penalties, and all the data analysis and mining behind it. NetEase is responsible for ensuring that the environment in the Chinese server absolutely avoids the issues seen in foreign servers.
4. Q: Will the Chinese server make adjustments to the classic gameplay of the original Diablo II (such as Runes, item drop rates) to suit the gaming habits of current players?
   
   Spoiler: Q4

   Matt: Thank you for your question. From our perspective, there are no separate versions; there’s no so-called international version or Chinese version—it’s all one game. Whether it’s Runes, items, or class balance, the Chinese server and the international server are identical.
5. Q: The next question is whether the Chinese server will optimize game functionality, such as providing players with larger storage space, like a portable stash or something similar?
   
   Spoiler: Q5

   Matt: One of the main differences between Diablo II from 25 years ago and the current remastered version is that the remaster significantly increased storage space. Unlike the very limited storage in the original, players now have a personal stash tab and three additional shared stash tabs. If players need more, they can purchase extra tabs, and pre-ordering also grants an additional stash tab, which is a substantial expansion in storage.
6. Q: The next question is for Kai. The Diablo 24-hour event was widely praised by the player community. Are there plans to hold similar events or challenges for Diablo II on the Chinese server in the future?
   
   Spoiler: Q6

   Kai: Players have shown great interest in past Diablo events, including the 24-hour programs. While we can’t guarantee a Diablo 24-hour event in the future, we will definitely organize various types of Diablo II events, competitions, or online programs for players to enjoy. Since this is the first time Diablo II is being released on the Chinese server with the remastered version, we’ll gather player feedback during operations and create tailored content. The 24-hour event was inspired by features like Adventure Mode and Greater Rifts, which allowed players to keep grinding. We don’t make decisions on a whim; we’ll design programs based on players’ habits and the content they enjoy.
7. Q: Another question for Kai. To cater to the Chinese market and players’ needs, will the upcoming version or future updates of Diablo II: Resurrected include any China-specific content in terms of gameplay?
   
   Spoiler: Q7

   Kai: During the relaunch of the Chinese server, we take different approaches for different games. Diablo II is a very classic game with well-known gameplay, and we don’t want to change its global consistency. You may have noticed that the pre-order offers include some bonuses, but these are just perks. After discussions with Blizzard, we agreed these are great additions, but beyond that, we currently have no plans to alter the game’s global consistency. It will remain aligned with the global version.
8. Q: The final question is also for Kai. You just announced the pricing for Diablo II: Resurrected, with the base version starting at 168 CNY, which is significantly discounted compared to the international server. How was the pricing strategy for the Chinese server determined?
   
   Spoiler: Q8

   Kai: The spending habits of Chinese players differ from those in other regions, so our goal is to make this classic game—the ancestor of the Diablo series—accessible to more players. We want to lower the barrier to entry so more people can experience it. At the same time, recognizing that some Chinese players have higher spending preferences, we’ve also provided optional higher-tier packages that don’t disrupt the game’s core experience but include content players enjoy, such as collectible items. This approach ensures that more players can access the game while offering valuable options for those willing to spend more for a premium experience.
9. Q: My first question is about the Chinese server’s premium packages, which include exclusive sets, unique items, and additional runes. How much impact do these items have on the early game experience, and will they affect the fairness of future ladder rankings?
   
   Spoiler: Q9

   Matt: That’s a great question. When we designed these two packages, our key goal was to ensure they don’t significantly interfere with the mid-to-late game experience. We understand that new items in the game can excite players. The sets and items we designed are not usable in ladder standards. When players enter the ladder season at a later date, these items cannot be used, but gold and experience points will carry over.
10. Q: My second question is about anti-cheat measures. Will the Chinese server share anti-cheat technology with the international server, or will it develop a customized solution tailored for the Chinese market?
    
    Spoiler: Q10

    For the relaunch of all Blizzard games, we’re using the latest anti-cheat technology developed by NetEase, which differs from the global version. We know cheating is less severe globally, but it’s a significant issue in China. Diablo II is particularly unique—unlike Diablo III, the item scarcity in Diablo II is more pronounced. Therefore, we’ll be extremely strict in combating cheating and botting to ensure a great environment for Diablo II. We’re fully committed to this, and the new anti-cheat SDK comes from NetEase. Our team handles SDK monitoring, penalties, and data analysis to ensure the Chinese server environment avoids the issues seen on international servers.
11. Q: The third question is whether Blizzard plans to integrate the operations of the entire Diablo series on the Chinese server into a more unified ecosystem?
    
    Spoiler: Q11

    Kai: From NetEase’s perspective, and I believe Blizzard shares this view, Diablo is a major IP with shared characteristics across its titles. While Diablo I has fewer players, Diablo II, III, and IV share common elements, even though some players stick to specific versions. We hope to create a more cohesive community for this classic ARPG, which continues to evolve. While players may form different groups, the core gameplay is beloved. We aim to unify operations for the ecosystem in the future, but with tailored approaches. For example, as mentioned earlier, anti-cheat strategies differ between Diablo III and Diablo II, and event planning may also vary. We want to bring players together where it makes sense while addressing differences appropriately. Thank you! Matt: I haven’t thought deeply about this or formed a clear opinion. Our current focus is on bringing Diablo II: Resurrected to China. We haven’t specifically considered treating Diablo I, II, III, and IV as branches under one theme. However, this is something we can discuss further with NetEase, as we’re great partners. Perhaps we’ll explore this in the future, but today our focus is primarily on Diablo II: Resurrected.
12. Q: The first question is about the localization process. What “behind-the-scenes” efforts, invisible to players, were made? What specific challenges were encountered during this process?
    
    Spoiler: Q12

    Kai: Thank you for your question. What players see is the harmonized content, but we aimed to deliver higher quality. When we started collaborating with Blizzard early on, we wanted to bring Diablo II back as soon as possible. However, due to a period of suspension, one notable effort players might not notice is related to the game’s publishing license. The license number for Diablo II, 1997518, is incredibly nostalgic and meaningful. We managed to reuse this old license, which helped us expedite the approval process while meeting regulatory requirements. We made necessary adjustments and worked with the original publisher to bring this nostalgic license to the Chinese server—a detail not everyone may appreciate. Secondly, we conducted extensive research on issues reported by international players, such as poor game environments due to cheating and botting. We worked hard to ensure the Chinese server offers a fresh experience at launch. This included integrating a new anti-cheat SDK to make Diablo II better at launch and deliver surprises for players. Our product planners collaborated with Blizzard’s team to enhance the player experience. While some players who played on international servers may wonder about their accounts, which cannot be transferred, we focused on helping players quickly reach their desired level with a more comfortable and enjoyable experience. Much of our effort went into improving the game environment, which is our top priority.
13. Q: Thank you for Kai’s response. Following up on this, have you done any specific work or implemented particular technical measures regarding server setup?
    
    Spoiler: Q13

    Matt: As always, we’ve worked closely with our NetEase partners to ensure local servers provide the best experience. As I mentioned earlier, we aim for zero latency and no compromises, delivering a very smooth experience. We don’t want characters stuttering in-game. To achieve this, we’ve done a tremendous amount of work behind the scenes to keep our servers stable, ensuring players have a great experience when they enter the game. Additionally, to touch on the previous question, we’ve put significant effort into localization with NetEase. For example, we focused on making the Chinese voice acting as authentic as possible, which is a key priority to provide Chinese players with an excellent experience.
14. Q: My second question is that Chinese players are known for their passion and engagement. How do you plan to collect and utilize feedback from Chinese players to further improve the Diablo II: Resurrected experience and ensure its vitality in the coming years?
    
    Spoiler: Q14

    Matt: This question is straightforward for me. I’ve been playing Diablo myself, just not on Chinese servers, and you wouldn’t believe how deeply involved I am in the community. Additionally, our partnership with NetEase is very close. We communicate every day, and the channels between Blizzard’s headquarters and NetEase are incredibly smooth. Whether through forums or websites, we actively listen to player feedback. Kai: As Matt said, we communicate daily through chat channels. Whenever issues are identified—whether through customer service, forums, or our own experiences—we relay them to Blizzard to ensure problems are resolved as quickly as possible. Please rest assured.
15. Q: The third question is a bit lengthy, and I’d like both of you to answer. For most veteran Chinese players, Diablo II is a nostalgic memory of their youth, but for newer players, it may be a game they’ve only heard about without deeply understanding it. This game, over 20 years old, has a relatively high barrier to entry for them. What specific designs or plans does the Chinese server have to evoke nostalgia for veteran players while helping new players quickly get started and grasp the game’s depth?
    
    Spoiler: Q15

    Matt: I’d say, with this game’s 25-year history, it has built an incredible community. When you enter the game, veteran players are there to help, whether you’re a new player, an old player, or a returning one. The game remains highly enjoyable even for first-timers. Whether you’re learning in-game or experiencing this benchmark ARPG that defined the genre, the experience is outstanding. Your allies are always fighting alongside you. We also have many grassroots communities built around the game’s passion, so veteran players will help newcomers get up to speed. Kai: From NetEase’s perspective, tastes vary even among newer players. As we discussed earlier about the Diablo series, Diablo III is more advanced than Diablo II, and Diablo IV is more advanced than Diablo III, with many modernized system optimizations. However, we believe Diablo II’s unique characteristics don’t necessarily require major system changes. Take World of Warcraft as an example: as its operator, we see modern servers and classic servers as distinct experiences. Classic servers retain their challenging elements without changes, yet they still attract new players. Similarly, Diablo II retains its original style, which may be complex, but as long as the community is active and healthy, our marketing and operations teams, along with the community, can create engaging content to make it easier for new players to get started. Rather than mindlessly adding modern game tutorials and losing the game’s original flavor, this approach suits Diablo II’s operations better.
16. Q: The first question is for Matt. Which version will the Chinese server use after launch? Will it include the 2.7 patch?
    
    Spoiler: Q16

    Matt: The version we’re launching will be the same as the current global version, which is in Season 11. After launch, there will be a buffer period before Season 11 starts on a date you’re not aware of yet, but the version itself is identical. This includes game balance, items, the latest Runewords, UI updates, and new content like the Zones of Terror, which is exclusive to Diablo II: Resurrected, ensuring a very smooth experience.
17. Q: The second question is for Kai. Will the Chinese server for Diablo II: Resurrected have an official trading platform? If not, how will you balance free trading with botting and studio scripts? Are there specific detection mechanisms or penalty policies in place?
    Spoiler: 17

    Kai: We’ve discussed this before, and I can clearly say there won’t be an official trading platform, at least not now. The joy of Diablo II lies in the item scarcity and the thrill of earning rewards through effort. To balance this, we’ll be very strict in regulating malicious studios or bots that farm items abnormally, ensuring regular players have a good experience. This is a balancing act, and we hope to do it well to avoid dampening the enthusiasm of players who love the game. While we’ll crack down on studios, normal trading is supported—it’s been part of the game’s ecosystem for decades and is a source of fun for many. As for detection, we’ll have specific mechanisms and penalty policies tailored for Diablo II. It’s an evolving process, and we’ve learned from international server experiences to prepare thoroughly. We aim to keep improving.
18. Q: The second question is for Kai. Many Chinese players have already experienced Diablo II: Resurrected on international servers, and leveling a new character in this game has a steep learning curve. Is there any possibility for players to transfer their international server accounts to the Chinese server in the future?
    
    Spoiler: Q18

    Kai: This is a common question. Unfortunately, account transfers are not possible due to regulatory restrictions, user agreements, and differing laws across countries. The Chinese server operates as a relatively independent entity. Instead, we aim to help players progress faster with some buffs, which we believe is a more suitable approach to let everyone re-experience the game. Another consideration is that transferring international accounts would widen the gap between veteran and new players, which could disrupt community harmony. If veteran players dominate while new players struggle, it limits interaction—new players might not get answers to their questions as veterans are busy elsewhere. Leveling together as a community creates a better atmosphere and shared experience, which is our core approach.
19. Q: My question is that the game hasn’t received new content updates for several years, such as new Runewords. Will updates resume in the future? If so, will they be continuous or follow the seasonal model, as is typical? Thank you.
    
    Spoiler: Q19

    Matt: As you mentioned, our current ladder updates follow a seasonal cycle, transitioning from one season to the next. As for additional updates, I can’t share anything specific at this time. However, one critical point is that we always listen closely to community feedback, and we’re committed to doing so. I don’t see this as the end of Diablo II but rather a new beginning. If you have ideas, please share them with us.
20. Q: The second question is about Diablo II’s hidden elements, like the Red Portal or Uber Diablo. Uber Diablo remains a very challenging boss to trigger. Are there plans to lower the threshold slightly?
    
    Spoiler: Q20

    Currently, it often requires specific organized groups to make it happen. Matt: Two points here. First, in the remastered version, Uber Diablo is easier to trigger. I’d estimate it could appear within two weeks of the server launch, especially as the season progresses. Second, we love the community collaboration around Clone Diablo. Diablo II is great as a single-player game, but with the community, it becomes an incredible experience. With the accelerated Diablo spawn mechanics and community participation, the overall fun is enhanced. Players share things like, “I’ve spawned Diablo X times,” which strengthens community bonds. Anything that brings our community closer together is something we’re happy to see.
21. Q: The third question is that reaching level 99 in Diablo II is an extremely difficult achievement, especially in Hardcore (HC) mode. Yet, you’ve designed a trophy for “reaching level 99 in Hardcore mode.” As a trophy enthusiast, I gave up on the Diablo II: Resurrected platinum trophy due to the time investment and difficulty. Are there plans to introduce new mechanics to make leveling easier for players?
    
    Spoiler: Q21

    Matt: No. I’d say Diablo II is, at its core, a very old-school game, especially in its later stages—it’s incredibly tough. Reaching level 99 in Hardcore mode is even harder, but I’ve done it, and I believe you can too. I have faith in you. That said, in the remastered version, the Zones of Terror slightly ease the difficulty curve, making it a bit less steep. Achieving this feels like a monumental accomplishment, and when you do it, you’ll feel amazing in the game lobby.
22. Q: I’d like to add that the dedication (or “grind”) of Asian players is on a different level compared to Western players.
    
    Spoiler: Q22

    Matt: You can team up with others, especially in the Zones of Terror. Give it a try—it might surprise you and feel a bit easier.
23. Q: Thank you for Kai’s response. My second question is for Matt regarding storage. We’ve seen that Diablo II: Resurrected provides additional stash tabs for the Chinese server. Will there be plans in the future for the Asian servers, including the Chinese server, to add more storage space with seasonal updates, similar to how Diablo III rewards players with extra stash tabs for completing seasonal tasks? Additionally, regarding buffs for underperforming classes, you’ve already made the Martial Arts Assassin viable with the Mosaic Runeword. Are there plans to further enhance skills like the Druid’s Armageddon or the Barbarian’s Whirlwind, which are iconic but underperform in-game?
    
    Spoiler: Q23

    Matt: For storage, the remastered version offers a much more streamlined and efficient experience. Gone are the days of spending 5-10 minutes dropping items on the ground, running elsewhere, and hoping they’re still there when you return. You also no longer need 20 mule characters to hold your gear—that’s obsolete. Now, you get a personal stash tab plus three additional shared stash tabs, which is sufficient. On top of that, pre-orders grant an extra stash tab, and you can purchase up to three more, adding a total of four additional tabs. This is more than ample storage for Diablo II: Resurrected. As for Mosaic, it’s a Runeword designed specifically for the Assassin, and after its introduction, the top three pages of the ladder are dominated by Assassins, so we’re planning to rebalance Mosaic. The Druid is one of my favorite classes—my top favorite is the Necromancer, followed by the non-Mosaic Assassin. I believe Armageddon is already one of the game’s strongest skills, so we won’t be making any changes to it. That said, for balance, we continuously listen to player feedback, make adjustments, and then gather more feedback in a cyclical process. We don’t have new information to share right now, except that we’re working on rebalancing Mosaic, but we’ll keep monitoring balance closely.
24. Q: The second question is about the leveling speed and area difficulty in Diablo II: Resurrected. Can you elaborate on this?
    
    Spoiler: Q24

    Matt: This could be a deep topic—we could talk for hours. In the past, only a small fraction of players, about 1%, reached level 99 in a three-month season. With the introduction of Zones of Terror, we’ve adjusted the leveling mechanics. Monster levels now scale closer to your character’s level, allowing you to stay in Zones of Terror longer and gain more experience when monster levels match yours. These changes have accelerated leveling, but reaching 99 still requires significant effort. If you do, it remains a remarkable achievement. Let me share a personal story: if I really grind and have no work commitments, I can hit 99 in a season. Normally, though, I reach level 95 or 96 before work takes over. That’s still a hefty grind, and level 95 is higher than most players—many stop around 75. The remastered version gives players more opportunities for better loot, elevating the overall player experience compared to 25 years ago. This version is pretty cool. It might sound cliché, but even veteran players will find something new, as they can push their characters to greater heights in the same amount of time.
25. Q: The final question is that Diablo II is a standout in the action MMO genre, with its class balance and deep gameplay widely praised. Can you share how Diablo II: Resurrected approaches class balance?
    
    Spoiler: Q25

    Matt: I’m not a designer or planner myself, but I work closely with the design team. A major strength of Diablo II is that it’s a very well-balanced game. Of course, some classes or builds may struggle more to clear Hell difficulty. Our goal is to ensure that players who choose a specific class or build feel proficient and satisfied with it. Every class should be viable and rewarding. To achieve this, balance is critical, and we rely heavily on player feedback. We collect vast amounts of data and feedback to inform balance adjustments. You can see this in Diablo III, where we’ve been balancing the game for years, including seasonal sets. However, we don’t have specific details to share about overall balance at this time. What I’ve described is our general approach to balancing the game.

 

[FenixBlack]

War NetEase nicht genau die Firma, mit der der Deal in China geplatzt war, was dazu führte dass Games including World of Warcraft, the StarCraft series, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch abgeschaltet wurden?

Spoiler: ja, genau die.

 

[SinBringer]

Runen

Naja, die Runen sind ja nicht solche, die wirklich einen Unterschied machen, die findet man beim normalen Spielen üblicherweise ohnehin, die Uniques (inklusive der beiden Jordans) sind nett, aber auch am Ende keine Gamechanger, das exklusive Set sicher für den Anfang recht stark, aber alles letztlich, ja, kann man machen, man verliert aber auch nicht viel wenn man es nicht haben sollte.

Wenn sie damit den chinesischen Markt überzeugen soll ihnen das unbenommen sein - wie bereits gesagt wurde sind die Asiaten/Chinesen aufgrund der dortigen Spiele und der Erwartungen an diverse Boni anders gestrickt als wir Europäer, wenn Blizzard sich dem Markt dort insoweit andient wie es dort erwartet wird ist das am Ende nichts anderes als Marketing.

Das Andere mit den kaufbaren Stash-Tabs ... nun, ich möchte einmal vermuten das wird auch bei uns irgendwann "ankommen" weil mehr Platz im Stash immer gerne gesehen ist und je nach Preisgestaltung nimmt man die halt möglicherweise mit.

 

[DiabloHuntCmon]

Dumm, aber man muss es ja nicht in Anspruch nehmen.

Ob die Spielmotivation gleich hoch ist wie wenn man nackt startet, wage ich aber zu bezweifeln.

 

[FenixBlack]

Naja, die Runen sind ja nicht solche, die wirklich einen Unterschied machen, die findet man beim normalen Spielen üblicherweise ohnehin, die Uniques (inklusive der beiden Jordans) sind nett, aber auch am Ende keine Gamechanger, das exklusive Set sicher für den Anfang recht stark, aber alles letztlich, ja, kann man machen, man verliert aber auch nicht viel wenn man es nicht haben sollte.

Dochdoch, die Runen machen einen Unterschied. Ich erinnere mich an meinem Summoner Druiden, der soloselffound zu Baal gegangen war. Der hatte in den gesamten 15Akten nicht einmal eine Lum gefunden. Die Lum für Rauch hat er sich aus 6Hel zusammen cuben müssen. Nach dem dann die letzte dafür nötige Hel aus der Höllenschmiede in Hölle gefallen war. Ich gebe zu, dass ist das untere Ende vom Glück, aber das verdeutlicht nur, wie groß der Unterschied zwischen "man spielt normal" und "man kauft sich den Erfolg" ist.
Ko-Runen sind in ihren jeweiligen Runenwörter auch recht mächtig. Es macht einen riesen Unterschied ob man Lawbringer oder Harmonie erst erst Mitte-Ende Hölle zusammenbauen kann, oder halt gleich auf Level39.
Stone of Jordan ist auch nur dr seltenste Ring im ganzen Spiel. Ich hab in D2:R noch keinen gefunden und da sind schon ein paar 100h Spielstunden zusammen gekommen.
Mit Facetten will ich gar nicht erst anfangen.

Da waren auch Items dabei, deren Namen mir neu sind. Ich gehe jede Wette ein, dass die daraus resultierenden Items vielleicht nicht Best-in-Slot in Endgamebuilds sein werden. Aber sie werden für ihr Level alles andere übertreffen. Ich bin echt gespannt, wie sehr sie es übertreiben.

Wenn sie damit den chinesischen Markt überzeugen soll ihnen das unbenommen sein - wie bereits gesagt wurde sind die Asiaten/Chinesen aufgrund der dortigen Spiele und der Erwartungen an diverse Boni anders gestrickt als wir Europäer, wenn Blizzard sich dem Markt dort insoweit andient wie es dort erwartet wird ist das am Ende nichts anderes als Marketing.

Können sie ja wegen mir gerne machen. Ein Grund mehr im Singleplayer zu bleiben. Der Pay4Power ist aber trotzdem enorm. Brauchst in China als Spieler Diablo2 gar nicht anfangen ohne nicht mindestens das Ultimative Paket zu kaufen.

Das Andere mit den kaufbaren Stash-Tabs ... nun, ich möchte einmal vermuten das wird auch bei uns irgendwann "ankommen" weil mehr Platz im Stash immer gerne gesehen ist und je nach Preisgestaltung nimmt man die halt möglicherweise mit.

Die Stash-Tabs belustigen mich.
Selbst hier in Europa haben die Spieler ja sogar angeboten Geld für mehr Stash auszugeben.
Blizzards Begründung für geht nicht war ja nicht: "das will doch keiner" oder "Wir sind zu faul es um zu setzen und als Microtransaction anzubieten", sondern: "Das ist wegen der Art wie das Spiel Items im Speicher verwaltet nicht möglich. (Ihr hättet dann zwar Stashtabs, ber es würde Zeug daraus verschwinden, weil es nicht gespeichert werden kann.) bzw (Das würde übelste Last auf den Servern erzeugen.)" Und jetzt ist es einfach so im Kaufpreis dabei.

 

[Ziger]

Dochdoch, die Runen machen einen Unterschied. Ich erinnere mich an meinem Summoner Druiden, der soloselffound zu Baal gegangen war. Der hatte in den gesamten 15Akten nicht einmal eine Lum gefunden. Die Lum für Rauch hat er sich aus 6Hel zusammen cuben müssen. Nach dem dann die letzte dafür nötige Hel aus der Höllenschmiede in Hölle gefallen war. Ich gebe zu, dass ist das untere Ende vom Glück, aber das verdeutlicht nur, wie groß der Unterschied zwischen "man spielt normal" und "man kauft sich den Erfolg" ist.
Ko-Runen sind in ihren jeweiligen Runenwörter auch recht mächtig. Es macht einen riesen Unterschied ob man Lawbringer oder Harmonie erst erst Mitte-Ende Hölle zusammenbauen kann, oder halt gleich auf Level39.
Stone of Jordan ist auch nur dr seltenste Ring im ganzen Spiel. Ich hab in D2:R noch keinen gefunden und da sind schon ein paar 100h Spielstunden zusammen gekommen.
Mit Facetten will ich gar nicht erst anfangen.

Da waren auch Items dabei, deren Namen mir neu sind. Ich gehe jede Wette ein, dass die daraus resultierenden Items vielleicht nicht Best-in-Slot in Endgamebuilds sein werden. Aber sie werden für ihr Level alles andere übertreffen. Ich bin echt gespannt, wie sehr sie es übertreiben.


Die Stash-Tabs belustigen mich.
Selbst hier in Europa haben die Spieler ja sogar angeboten Geld für mehr Stash auszugeben.
Blizzards Begründung für geht nicht war ja nicht: "das will doch keiner" oder "Wir sind zu faul es um zu setzen und als Microtransaction anzubieten", sondern: "Das ist wegen der Art wie das Spiel Items im Speicher verwaltet nicht möglich. (Ihr hättet dann zwar Stashtabs, ber es würde Zeug daraus verschwinden, weil es nicht gespeichert werden kann.) bzw (Das würde übelste Last auf den Servern erzeugen.)" Und jetzt ist es einfach so im Kaufpreis dabei.

- zum P2W: Im QA bei Punkt 9 sagen sie, dass es einmalig ist und bei einer späteren Ladder nicht verfügbar ist. Bleibt natürlich fragwürdig, aber klingt erstmal nur einmalig. Klingt aber auch so als ob man einen kaufbaren XP Boost in die Ladder bringen kann, was natürlich scheisse ist für alle denen die Rangliste wichtig ist.
Im Westen würd ich mir da in Bezug auf D2 keine grossen Gedanken machen. Finanziell ist das Spiel so durch, dass es den Shitstorm nicht wert ist.

- Stashtabs: denke mal die werden sie in absehbarer Zeit auch dem Rest der Welt verkaufen. Ist ja gut möglich, dass es damals nicht möglich war und sie seither daran gearbeitet haben. Die einzig andere Art wies nur in China klappt, wäre ja das Netease das entwickelt hat aber nicht mit Blizzard teilt oder Blizz es nicht umsetzen will/kann. Wäre komisch.

klingt so als ob (wieder) aktiv am Spiel gearbeitet wird. In Q24 steht zb dass sie an Mosaic arbeiten. Wer also Lust auf Balancepatches hat, kriegt da wahrscheinlich wieder mehr in den nächsten paar Seasons.

 

[Klenkogi]

Was ich aus der Gerüchteküche noch fischen konnte ist, dass Netease wohl plant in Q1 2026 eine Erweiterung für D2:R anzukündigen. Ob das nur für den Chinesischen markt sein soll oder auch für den westlichen Markt ist nicht rauslesbar.

Die Tatsache, dass es derzeit Fokusgruppen in Australien gibt deutet darauf, dass es nicht zu abwägig ist.


Wichtig ist zu sagen, dass ich das alles erst glaube, wenn ich es sehe.

 

[Kane]

Wie langweilig^^ Wers richtig haben will, geht in den Itemshop seines Vertrauens und gut. Real money trade ist ein ständiger Begleiter von D2 seit kurz nach Beginn, und Blizzard hat dagegen nie wirklich was getan

Aber schön, dass das beste Diablo immer noch gemolken werden kann

Expansion? Immer her damit

 

[Klenkogi]

Interessanterweise wird Botting auf den Chinesischen Servern iemlich eingeschränkt sein. Die chinesische Version von Battle.net muss mit einem NetEase-Konto verknüpft sein, um ordnungsgemäß zu funktionieren. Die Registrierung eines NetEase-Kontos erfordert einen chinesischen Ausweis und eine chinesische Handynummer, was für groß angelegte Botter sehr unfreundlich ist.

In dem Sinne ergibt es Sinn, dass die Chinesen Stash-Tabs erhalten, wir dagegen können einfach mehrere Spielkopien kaufen für fast den selben Effekt

 

[Klenkogi]

Hier ein paar Screenshots aus der zensierten Version von Diablo 2 für China.

Spoiler: Mephisto hat einen schicken Sixpack

Spoiler: Andariel hat ihre Kleiderkammer gefunden

Spoiler: Skelette tragen Rüstung und Rock

Spoiler: Blut Golem

Spoiler: Schrumpfköpfe haben kein Gesicht

Spoiler: Knochenwände

Spoiler: Barbaren zeigen weniger Haut

Darüber hinaus gibt es keine Leichen, nur Grabsteine. Des Necros CE ist nun Tomb Explosions und es lässt Grabsteine explodieren.

Knochenspeer heißt auch anders und ist jetzt mehr ein Weißer Blitz.
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