Ziger
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Hallo,
ich dachte mir ich mach mal ein thread zu den neuen Sachen auf, die der Patch so mit sich bringt. Ich werde (sofern spielbar) wohl einiges auf dem PTR testen, wer also selber keine Zeit hat und etwas bestimmtes interessiert, kann hier gerne Vorschläge bringen
Erstmal eine Übersicht zu den neuen Dingen: (hab ich leider nur auf Englisch, falls es ein Problem für jemanden ist, kann ich bei Bedarf auszugsweise übersetzen)
Items:
Skills: (Aktive Skills sind eigentlich nur Hex und Zombiewall interessant, daher Rot hervorgehoben. Bei den anderen sind mehrheitlich ein paar Elemente verschoben oder ein paar %-Punkte dmg anders)
Sets und ihre Möglichkeiten
Manajumas: Grösster Nachteil ist, dass man mit Waffe + Mojo zwei sehr potente Slots opfert, um das Set zu tragen. Permanent mit +100% schneller Rennen ist natürlich nice, wird aber wohl eher zum Speedfarmen zu gebrauchen sein als oben mitzuspielen
Spirit of Arachyr:
Was offensichtlich schade ist, dass es weniger und fast nur dieselben Skills unterstützt wie Helltooth, dabei aber "nur" 6x fachen Dmg macht, im Vergleich zu 9-fachem von Helltooth. Corpse Spiders, Plague of Toads haben eine schlechte Reichweite, Piranhas und Hex als Hauptdmgquellen eher schlecht und Fledermäuse als Channelspell jetzt auch nicht grad ein Traum.
Fazit: braucht definitiv noch eingies, bis es brauchbar wird. Aktuell seh ich hier eigentlich nur eine Speedrun-variante mit Manajumas zusammen. Wo man als Hühnchen durch die Gegend rennt und alles oneshottet. Höhere Gebiete kann Helltooth mMn viel besser.
Helltooth:
- jeder Gegner der von einer Wand getroffen wird, kassiert einfach mal 25k% WD über 10 Sekunden. Find ich bissl überrissen als 2er Bonus.
-primary Skills, Acid Cloud, Firebats, Zombie Charger, Grasp of the Dead, Piranhas, and Wall of Death: kriegen 9x fachen Dmg
Acid Cloud wird da besonders interessant. Boden mit Gift zupflastern, Corpsebomb oder die "Giftkriecher" mitten auf eingesperrte Gegner... hat Potenzial.
ZombieCharger und Firebats wird sich zeigen müssen wie es defensiv aussieht, da man doch recht nah ran muss.
Primary Skills: Hier werden denk ich mal die "Standby"-Skills interessant. Da wir nun endlich wieder Mana brauchen, könnte man so VisionQuest wiederbeleben.
Buildideen:
Da bin ich bisher noch nicht sehr weit.
Der für mich offensichtlichste wäre in etwa folgendes:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#SUiRkY!UeVb!Y.Yccb
-Gegner mit Zombiewalls einsperren, Kröte und Pyrogeister nebenher und dann mit Corpsebomb draufhalten. Hunde und Fetische als zusätzliche defense. Alternativ mit Zombiecharger - Pile on oder Explosive beast um Mana zu sparen oder Acid Cloud - Lob blob bomb als Giftvariante
Idee2: Firewaller
Zombiewall mit der Feuerrune: jeder der sie berührt kassiert 1k Dmg über 4 sek in Kombination mit dem neuen Item "Wall of Death can be cast up to twice again within 2 seconds before the cooldown begins."
Wenn wir also 3 Wände stellen können, die jeweils 1k Dmg verursachen *9, hätten wir schon 27k dmg über 4 sekunden. Machen wir das 2.5x alle 10 Sekunden ergibt das 67.5k dmg + 25k vom 2er Helltooth = 92.5k Dmg über 10 sek mit dem Einsatz von nur einem Skill^^
Eure Vorschläge was gut klappen könnte?
ich dachte mir ich mach mal ein thread zu den neuen Sachen auf, die der Patch so mit sich bringt. Ich werde (sofern spielbar) wohl einiges auf dem PTR testen, wer also selber keine Zeit hat und etwas bestimmtes interessiert, kann hier gerne Vorschläge bringen
Erstmal eine Übersicht zu den neuen Dingen: (hab ich leider nur auf Englisch, falls es ein Problem für jemanden ist, kann ich bei Bedarf auszugsweise übersetzen)
Items:
Sets:
Manajuma's Way
2 pieces: [Your Hex - Angry Chicken lasts 15 seconds and movement speed as a chicken is increased by an additional 100%.]
Zunimassa's Haunt
2 Pieces: Now the cooldown of your Fetish Army is reduced by 80% also
Helltooth Harness
2 pieces: [Enemies hit by Wall of Death are afflicted by Necrosis, becoming Slowed and taking 2500% weapon damage every second for 10 seconds.]
4 pieces: [After applying Necrosis to an enemy, you take 50% reduced damage for 10 seconds.]
6 pieces: [Enemies afflicted by Necrosis take an 800% increased damage from your primary skills, Acid Cloud, Firebats, Zombie Charger, Grasp of the Dead, Piranhas, and Wall of Death.]
Spirit of Arachyr
2 pieces: [Summon a permanent Spider Queen who leaves behind webs that deal [1500]% weapon damage over 5 seconds and Slows enemies. The Spider Queen is commanded to move to where you cast your Corpse Spiders.]
4 pieces: [Hex gains the effect of the Toad of Hugeness rune. While Toad of Hugeness is active, you take 40% reduced damage. After Toad of Hugeness finishes his meal, you will heal for 10% of your maximum Life per second for 10 seconds.]
6 pieces: [The damage of your creature skills is increased by 500%. Creature skills are Corpse Spiders, Plague of Toads, Firebats, Hex, and Piranhas.]
Sonstige Items
Lewis_ItemPassive_Test -{c_magic}[{VALUE1} * 2]%{/c_magic} chance on hit to summon a Fetish Sycophant. (Gidbinn?)
P3_ItemPassive_Unique_Ring_029 -While channeling Firebats, gain {c_magic}{VALUE1} Life per Hit.
P3_ItemPassive_Unique_Ring_031 -Wall of Death can be cast up to twice again within 2 seconds before the cooldown begins.
Manajuma's Way
2 pieces: [Your Hex - Angry Chicken lasts 15 seconds and movement speed as a chicken is increased by an additional 100%.]
Zunimassa's Haunt
2 Pieces: Now the cooldown of your Fetish Army is reduced by 80% also
Helltooth Harness
2 pieces: [Enemies hit by Wall of Death are afflicted by Necrosis, becoming Slowed and taking 2500% weapon damage every second for 10 seconds.]
4 pieces: [After applying Necrosis to an enemy, you take 50% reduced damage for 10 seconds.]
6 pieces: [Enemies afflicted by Necrosis take an 800% increased damage from your primary skills, Acid Cloud, Firebats, Zombie Charger, Grasp of the Dead, Piranhas, and Wall of Death.]
Spirit of Arachyr
2 pieces: [Summon a permanent Spider Queen who leaves behind webs that deal [1500]% weapon damage over 5 seconds and Slows enemies. The Spider Queen is commanded to move to where you cast your Corpse Spiders.]
4 pieces: [Hex gains the effect of the Toad of Hugeness rune. While Toad of Hugeness is active, you take 40% reduced damage. After Toad of Hugeness finishes his meal, you will heal for 10% of your maximum Life per second for 10 seconds.]
6 pieces: [The damage of your creature skills is increased by 500%. Creature skills are Corpse Spiders, Plague of Toads, Firebats, Hex, and Piranhas.]
Sonstige Items
Lewis_ItemPassive_Test -{c_magic}[{VALUE1} * 2]%{/c_magic} chance on hit to summon a Fetish Sycophant. (Gidbinn?)
P3_ItemPassive_Unique_Ring_029 -While channeling Firebats, gain {c_magic}{VALUE1} Life per Hit.
P3_ItemPassive_Unique_Ring_031 -Wall of Death can be cast up to twice again within 2 seconds before the cooldown begins.
Skills: (Aktive Skills sind eigentlich nur Hex und Zombiewall interessant, daher Rot hervorgehoben. Bei den anderen sind mehrheitlich ein paar Elemente verschoben oder ein paar %-Punkte dmg anders)
Passive
Spiritual Attunement Now regenerates 3% of your maximum Mana per second (up from 1%).
Blood Ritual 20% of Mana costs are paid with Life (up from 10%).
Bad Medicine When you deal Poison damage to an enemy, its damage is reduced by 25% (up from 20%) for 5 seconds (up from 3).
Swampland Attunement (reworded from Physical Attunement)
You and your pets gain 120 (up from 70) Physical, Poison, Fire, and Cold Resistance for every enemy within 20 yards. (reworked to affect pets as well and added elemental resistances)
Aktive
Wall of Death (renamed from Wall of Zombies)
Description: Raise a wall (reworked from line) of zombies 28 yards wide from the ground that blocks enemies and attacks them (reworked from only attacking enemies) for 800% weapon damage (up from 200%) as Physical over 6 seconds (up from 4).
Surrounded by Death : Raise a circle of zombies from the ground that traps and attacks nearby enemies for 1000% weapon damage (up from 25%) as Physical over 4 seconds (down from each attack) - reworked from zombies uprotting and attacking enemies.
Ring of Poison: Summon a deadly ring for 5 seconds that poisons nearby enemies for 1200% weapon damage as Poison over 8 seconds. (NEW)
Communing with Spirits : Summon a circle of spirits for 6 seconds that deals 1400% weapon damage as Cold, Chills nearby enemies by 60%, and reduces their damage dealt by 25% for 3 seconds. (NEW)
Offensive Line: Increase the width of the wall to 50 yards. All enemies in front of you are knocked back behind the wall. (NEW)
Fire Wall : Raise a wall of flame 40 yards wide for 8 seconds that burns enemieswho walk through, causing them to take 1000% weapon damage as Fire over 4 seconds. (NEW)
Hex Hexed enemies take 15% additional damage (up from 10%).
Toad of Hugeness : Summon a giant toad that pulls in enemies, briefly swallows them whole then spits them back out with a layer of goo that deals 750% weapon damage as Poison over 5 seconds and increases all damage taken by 25%. (reworked from swallowing one enemy and dealing 580% damage per second).
Angry Chicken : Transform into an angry chicken for up to 2 seconds that can explode for 1350% weapon damage as Poison (changed from Physical) to all enemies within 12 yards.
Unstable Form : Hexed enemies explode when killed, dealing 500% weapon damage (up from 135%) as Fire to all enemies within 8 yards.
Jinx : Increases the magnitude of the hex to 30% additional damage (up from 20%).
Corpse Spiders
Blazing Spiders : Throw a jar with fire spiders that that return 3 Mana to you per hit. (reworked from deal 700% Fire damage)
Widowmakers : Throw a jar with widowmaker spiders deal a total of 700% weapon damage as Physical. (reworked from return 3 Mana per hit)
Soul Harvest
Soul to Waste : Gain 5% increased movement speed for each enemy harvested. (NEW)
Firebomb
Ghost Bomb : In addition to the base explosion, the skull creates a larger blast that deals an additional 30% weapon damage as Cold (changed from Fire) to all other enemies within 28 yards.
Acid Cloud
Corpse Bomb : Raise a corpse from the ground that explodes for 620% weapon damage (up from 525%) as Fire to enemies in the area.
Kiss of Death : Spit a cloud of acid that deals 333% weapon damage (up from 330%) as Poison, followed by 400% weapon damage (up from 396%) as Poison over 3 seconds.
Mass Confusion
Incite paranoia in enemies, confusing them and causing some to be Charmed and fight for you for 12 seconds. (added Charm effect)
Mass Hysteria : Up to 10 enemies (up from 6) who are not Confused become Stunned for 3 seconds.
Mass Hallucination : Amid the confusion, a giant spirit rampages through enemies, dealing 400% weapon damage (up from 195%) per second as Physical to enemies it passes through.
Unstable Realm : Reduce the cooldown of Mass Confusion to 30 seconds (down from 45).
Devolution : Enemies killed while Confused have a 100% chance to spawn a Zombie Dog (up from 30%).
Zombie Charger
Zombie Bears : Summon zombie bears that stampede towards your enemy. Each bear deals 400% weapon damage (up from 392%) as Poison to enemies in the area.
Lumbering Cold : Zombie winter bears crawl out of the ground and run in all directions, dealing 200% weapon damage (up from 196%) as Cold to nearby enemies.
Explosive Beast : Summon an explosive Zombie Dog that streaks toward the enemy before exploding, dealing 580% weapon damage (up from 532%) as Fire to all enemies within 12 yards (up from 9).
Firebats
Hungry Bats : Rapidly summon two bats that each seek out a nearbyenemy for 635% weapon damage as Fire. (reworked to summon two bats at once rather than one)
Plague Bats : Diseased bats fly towards the enemy and infect them. Damage is slow at first, but can increase over time to a maximum of 660% weapon damage (up from 638%) as Poison.
Vampire Bats : Firebats' damage type now turns into Physical.
Plague of Toads
Piercing Toads : Mutate to frogs that pierce through enemies for 130% weapon damage as Physical. (changed from Poison)
Toad Affinity : Now deals Cold damage
Spiritual Attunement Now regenerates 3% of your maximum Mana per second (up from 1%).
Blood Ritual 20% of Mana costs are paid with Life (up from 10%).
Bad Medicine When you deal Poison damage to an enemy, its damage is reduced by 25% (up from 20%) for 5 seconds (up from 3).
Swampland Attunement (reworded from Physical Attunement)
You and your pets gain 120 (up from 70) Physical, Poison, Fire, and Cold Resistance for every enemy within 20 yards. (reworked to affect pets as well and added elemental resistances)
Aktive
Wall of Death (renamed from Wall of Zombies)
Description: Raise a wall (reworked from line) of zombies 28 yards wide from the ground that blocks enemies and attacks them (reworked from only attacking enemies) for 800% weapon damage (up from 200%) as Physical over 6 seconds (up from 4).
Surrounded by Death : Raise a circle of zombies from the ground that traps and attacks nearby enemies for 1000% weapon damage (up from 25%) as Physical over 4 seconds (down from each attack) - reworked from zombies uprotting and attacking enemies.
Ring of Poison: Summon a deadly ring for 5 seconds that poisons nearby enemies for 1200% weapon damage as Poison over 8 seconds. (NEW)
Communing with Spirits : Summon a circle of spirits for 6 seconds that deals 1400% weapon damage as Cold, Chills nearby enemies by 60%, and reduces their damage dealt by 25% for 3 seconds. (NEW)
Offensive Line: Increase the width of the wall to 50 yards. All enemies in front of you are knocked back behind the wall. (NEW)
Fire Wall : Raise a wall of flame 40 yards wide for 8 seconds that burns enemieswho walk through, causing them to take 1000% weapon damage as Fire over 4 seconds. (NEW)
Hex Hexed enemies take 15% additional damage (up from 10%).
Toad of Hugeness : Summon a giant toad that pulls in enemies, briefly swallows them whole then spits them back out with a layer of goo that deals 750% weapon damage as Poison over 5 seconds and increases all damage taken by 25%. (reworked from swallowing one enemy and dealing 580% damage per second).
Angry Chicken : Transform into an angry chicken for up to 2 seconds that can explode for 1350% weapon damage as Poison (changed from Physical) to all enemies within 12 yards.
Unstable Form : Hexed enemies explode when killed, dealing 500% weapon damage (up from 135%) as Fire to all enemies within 8 yards.
Jinx : Increases the magnitude of the hex to 30% additional damage (up from 20%).
Corpse Spiders
Blazing Spiders : Throw a jar with fire spiders that that return 3 Mana to you per hit. (reworked from deal 700% Fire damage)
Widowmakers : Throw a jar with widowmaker spiders deal a total of 700% weapon damage as Physical. (reworked from return 3 Mana per hit)
Soul Harvest
Soul to Waste : Gain 5% increased movement speed for each enemy harvested. (NEW)
Firebomb
Ghost Bomb : In addition to the base explosion, the skull creates a larger blast that deals an additional 30% weapon damage as Cold (changed from Fire) to all other enemies within 28 yards.
Acid Cloud
Corpse Bomb : Raise a corpse from the ground that explodes for 620% weapon damage (up from 525%) as Fire to enemies in the area.
Kiss of Death : Spit a cloud of acid that deals 333% weapon damage (up from 330%) as Poison, followed by 400% weapon damage (up from 396%) as Poison over 3 seconds.
Mass Confusion
Incite paranoia in enemies, confusing them and causing some to be Charmed and fight for you for 12 seconds. (added Charm effect)
Mass Hysteria : Up to 10 enemies (up from 6) who are not Confused become Stunned for 3 seconds.
Mass Hallucination : Amid the confusion, a giant spirit rampages through enemies, dealing 400% weapon damage (up from 195%) per second as Physical to enemies it passes through.
Unstable Realm : Reduce the cooldown of Mass Confusion to 30 seconds (down from 45).
Devolution : Enemies killed while Confused have a 100% chance to spawn a Zombie Dog (up from 30%).
Zombie Charger
Zombie Bears : Summon zombie bears that stampede towards your enemy. Each bear deals 400% weapon damage (up from 392%) as Poison to enemies in the area.
Lumbering Cold : Zombie winter bears crawl out of the ground and run in all directions, dealing 200% weapon damage (up from 196%) as Cold to nearby enemies.
Explosive Beast : Summon an explosive Zombie Dog that streaks toward the enemy before exploding, dealing 580% weapon damage (up from 532%) as Fire to all enemies within 12 yards (up from 9).
Firebats
Hungry Bats : Rapidly summon two bats that each seek out a nearbyenemy for 635% weapon damage as Fire. (reworked to summon two bats at once rather than one)
Plague Bats : Diseased bats fly towards the enemy and infect them. Damage is slow at first, but can increase over time to a maximum of 660% weapon damage (up from 638%) as Poison.
Vampire Bats : Firebats' damage type now turns into Physical.
Plague of Toads
Piercing Toads : Mutate to frogs that pierce through enemies for 130% weapon damage as Physical. (changed from Poison)
Toad Affinity : Now deals Cold damage
Sets und ihre Möglichkeiten
Manajumas: Grösster Nachteil ist, dass man mit Waffe + Mojo zwei sehr potente Slots opfert, um das Set zu tragen. Permanent mit +100% schneller Rennen ist natürlich nice, wird aber wohl eher zum Speedfarmen zu gebrauchen sein als oben mitzuspielen
Spirit of Arachyr:
Was offensichtlich schade ist, dass es weniger und fast nur dieselben Skills unterstützt wie Helltooth, dabei aber "nur" 6x fachen Dmg macht, im Vergleich zu 9-fachem von Helltooth. Corpse Spiders, Plague of Toads haben eine schlechte Reichweite, Piranhas und Hex als Hauptdmgquellen eher schlecht und Fledermäuse als Channelspell jetzt auch nicht grad ein Traum.
Fazit: braucht definitiv noch eingies, bis es brauchbar wird. Aktuell seh ich hier eigentlich nur eine Speedrun-variante mit Manajumas zusammen. Wo man als Hühnchen durch die Gegend rennt und alles oneshottet. Höhere Gebiete kann Helltooth mMn viel besser.
Helltooth:
- jeder Gegner der von einer Wand getroffen wird, kassiert einfach mal 25k% WD über 10 Sekunden. Find ich bissl überrissen als 2er Bonus.
-primary Skills, Acid Cloud, Firebats, Zombie Charger, Grasp of the Dead, Piranhas, and Wall of Death: kriegen 9x fachen Dmg
Acid Cloud wird da besonders interessant. Boden mit Gift zupflastern, Corpsebomb oder die "Giftkriecher" mitten auf eingesperrte Gegner... hat Potenzial.
ZombieCharger und Firebats wird sich zeigen müssen wie es defensiv aussieht, da man doch recht nah ran muss.
Primary Skills: Hier werden denk ich mal die "Standby"-Skills interessant. Da wir nun endlich wieder Mana brauchen, könnte man so VisionQuest wiederbeleben.
Buildideen:
Da bin ich bisher noch nicht sehr weit.
Der für mich offensichtlichste wäre in etwa folgendes:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#SUiRkY!UeVb!Y.Yccb
-Gegner mit Zombiewalls einsperren, Kröte und Pyrogeister nebenher und dann mit Corpsebomb draufhalten. Hunde und Fetische als zusätzliche defense. Alternativ mit Zombiecharger - Pile on oder Explosive beast um Mana zu sparen oder Acid Cloud - Lob blob bomb als Giftvariante
Idee2: Firewaller
Zombiewall mit der Feuerrune: jeder der sie berührt kassiert 1k Dmg über 4 sek in Kombination mit dem neuen Item "Wall of Death can be cast up to twice again within 2 seconds before the cooldown begins."
Wenn wir also 3 Wände stellen können, die jeweils 1k Dmg verursachen *9, hätten wir schon 27k dmg über 4 sekunden. Machen wir das 2.5x alle 10 Sekunden ergibt das 67.5k dmg + 25k vom 2er Helltooth = 92.5k Dmg über 10 sek mit dem Einsatz von nur einem Skill^^
Eure Vorschläge was gut klappen könnte?
